Can A Homosexual Be Saved? The Truth.
As with any sin, a homosexual CAN REPENT, pick up his/her cross, and carry it as he/she follows Jesus Christ. This video makes some good points, but let us remember, if we live in ANY sin, whether it is homosexuality, adultery, fornication, drunkenness, idolatry, etc. without repentance, we are NOT truly living in Jesus Christ and are in grave danger. God bless you.
Lyn, FYI my reply to your “I welcome you, Alex, to come here and read my posts and comment any time…even if your comment is not in agreement with something I post” is still awaiting moderation.
Please pray for me to be able to confront my friend IN LOVE and IN TRUTH about Homosexuality so that she can repent and be saved!
Will Do Sue! God bless you! Go to my promise book website and please add this to the prayer request page… this way I will remember! http://PromiseBook.net
@MarianneLordi: you said: “Let’s reason. It doesn’t matter to me what seminary you went to or what grades you got. Paul tells us that if he or anyone, even an angel from heaven distort the Gospel of Christ, let him be accursed. I am sure that is for this day also.”
OK, let’s reason. I am sure this is for today also. I couldn’t agree more with you on this point. But Lord knows, throughout church history we’ve had myriads of well-meaning Christians like yourself who have used the Bible to condemn other Christians — and we know in many, if not most cases, they were acting in good faith. They believed they were defending against an attack of the “clear teaching” of Scripture. History has revealed, however, that what many were defending was their presumption of what the Bible teaches, not the truth of Scripture. As best-selling author and former professor of biblical exegesis F.F. Bruce aptly put it: “It is not enough to say: ‘The Bible says’… without at the same time considering, to whom the Bible says it, and in what circumstances.” As I said before, you can claim your doctrine is the “clear teaching of Scripture” until you’re blue in the face. But unless you can exegetically support your doctrine, it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans. That’s precisely why the number of Bible scholars, theologians and other evangelicals who have done their theological homework increasingly are concluding that you are the one who are distorting the gospel.
It’s been predicted that in our own lifetime, and if not certainly within the next generation, that those who are seemingly so confident of your exegetical skills on this issue, will look as foolish and as outdated as George Wallace does today in videos of him standing on the school steps of the University of Alabama, keeping James Hood from entering because he was black. We too easily forget that we only “know in part” and “see through a glass dimly.”
Do your homework, Lyn. Read the posts I suggested and if you’re so sure that you’re right and I’m wrong, defend your position exegetically. Paul said we should always be ready to make a defense to anyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence. He said we need to able to rightly divide the Word of truth. I’ve done that in the posts I’ve pointed you to. If you think I’m wrong, defend your position. Let’s reason, as you’ve proposed. Either we’re drawing out from the text what’s actually there and what the original authors intended (exegesis), or we’re reading our own personal prejudices back into the text and making the biblical authors say things they never intended to say (eisegesis). Let’s see who is distorting the gospel of Christ.
-Alex Haiken
http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com
Alex..I agree with Marianne..but that message was not from me..it was from Marianne Lordi. I will edit your comment and put her name instead of mine..okay? Just telling you in advance. Thankx.
Alex, did you read all that I wrote? What Scriptures did you not understand? I backed up everything I said right from God’s word. It is not me who is condemning homosexuality. God is! And you can take a quote from a former professor but it doesn’t say anything. There are many, God-fearing, best selling authors who can demonstrate exegetically that God’s word does not change and that he still condemns homosexuality. You, my friend, are seriously deceived. Check out Dr. John MacArthur, best selling author and teacher and see what he shows you about what I have said. Check out Dr. David Jeremiah, best selling author and teacher who will say the same. By the way, they have done their homework and so have I.
Alex, Christ is getting ready to return soon. Are you willing to risk eternity on what you want to believe but that is not backed up in God’s word? I pray that you rethink and seek God’s wisdom in this matter.
Marianne, surely I read what you wrote. You get an A+ for quoting scripture. Now you need to know something about what these passages meant to the original author and the original intended audience.
As R.C. Sproul said, “If God speaks he must use words to do so. Words express thoughts, commands, descriptions, and the like. The problem is that words and sentences must be interpreted if they are to be understood. It is far more than a matter of translation, for while translation gets at what God says, we are still left with the question of what God means.”
I can quote you just as many “best-selling authors and teachers” who used to believe what you believe on this topic and have now written extensively on why when the passages that generally get appealed to in this debate are examined more closely and in context, the interpretations that you adhere to do not hold up to scrutiny.
Yes, Christ is getting ready to return soon. Thank you kindly for the warning. But I’m quite confident and secure in my salvation. Not, of course, because of anything I’ve done or could ever do. But entirely because of what he has done for me. Bless His name.
-Alex Haiken
http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com
Alex, you give a lot of words but you are just skirting the issue. You said I get an A+ for quoting scripture but I need to know what the passages meant to the original author. Once again, the bible is God-breathed – that imeans that all of it is written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. He is the Author and he said what he meant. How can you read it any differently than the way it was said? It wasn’t cloaked in mystery. How can you say God meant anything differently than “For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.” What does shameful or vile passions mean to you?And what does penalty of error refer to? That verse was from Romans 1:26-27. And Paul goes on to admonish then saying in verse 32, “Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them”. Is that now what you are doing, Alex?
Christ died to give us the free gift of salvation that to those who belong to him might rule one day in heaven with him. However,those who continue in their sin will not be with Christ. He will say, ” Be gone, I never knew you”. In 2 Timothy 3, such people are said to have a “form of godliness but deny its power.” That is not the same thing as being surrendered to Christ. That is why Jesus told his followers to examine themselves to see if they were in the faith.
If you don’t believe God’s word, my friend, you will never believe what I say.
Skirting the issue??!! Marianne, you can try to accuse me of anything that suits your fancy. But if there’s one thing you cannot accuse me of, it is “skirting the issue”. I have written extensively on this topic and have pointed you to the posts I’ve published that express exegetically and in detail why your theology is shoddy and unsupportable. But have you taken the time or trouble to read any of them and then try to explain specifically and exegetically where I’m wrong? The answer to that is a resounding NO, you have not. In all due respect, if there’s anyone “skirting the issue,” it would be you.
As I said to Lyn, unless the doctrines we profess can be exegetically supported by the long established, accepted and scientific rules of biblical exegesis that respensible scholars and theologians adhere to, then we must be willing to let them go no matter how treasured or long-held they may be. That is unless, of course, you’d prefer to retain an attitude of, “Don’t confuse me with the facts; my mind is already made up.”
-Alex Haiken
http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com
@Marianne You’re doing a wonderful job. Unfortunately, the enemy has this man’s spirit in bondage and God can’t go against his own will. He has chosen that he wants to believe that mans word is more valuable than God’s Word in order to conform to his perversions of the truth. He does not want to be convicted, because then, like Jesus, he or someone he knows would have to pick up their cross and carry it, and it’s just too painful. He believes the lies of the enemy and we’ll pray for him, as well as any others who might be deceived by these perversions and lies. I have found out of most people I deal with on here…not all…mind you..but most… homosexuals are by far the most difficult to witness to. They reject the truth most every time, doing just as the Bible says. Having a form of godliness, Only will he hear the truth if the Holy Spirit can really get in and minister to him.
As it is written of such: 2 Timothy 3:1-9, But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.
Revelation 21:8, complete Jewish Bible, “But as for the cowardly, the untrustworthy, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those involved with the occult and with drugs, idol-worshippers, and all liars – their destiny is the lake burning with fire and sulfur, the second death.”
Lyn, you stated: “[Alex] has chosen that he wants to believe that mans word is more valuable than God’s Word.”
Can you support the notion that I have chosen to believe man’s word over God’s? If so, I’d be anxious to hear it. You’d have to be living under a rock to not be aware that your position on this issue is being widely challenged by increasing numbers of Bible scholars and theologians everywhere, just as the church has done on scores of other issues over the course of Christian history.
Fact is people with a high regard for Scripture and who are prayerfully committed to ordering their lives in accordance with it are honestly divided over this issue. Therefore, the need for people at this time to exercise all of their interpretive (and other) virtues in an open conversation with all the concerned parties could not be more acute. Simply attempting to malign those who disagree with you is not a fruitful or Christian response.
-Alex Haiken
http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com
Alex….this is all I have to say on this because you are not going to pervert God’s truth in my head. I stand firmly on God’s Word and know what it says. I also have a personal relationship with the Lord. So this back and forth is pointless. Here’s all I have to say about engaging in this back and forth:
2 Timothy 2:14-20, 14 Keep reminding people of this, and charge them solemnly before the Lord not to engage in word-battles. They accomplish nothing useful and are a catastrophe for the hearers! 15 Do all you can to present yourself to God as someone worthy of his approval, as a worker with no need to be ashamed, because he deals straightforwardly with the Word of the Truth. 16 But keep away from godless babbling, for those who engage in it will only become more ungodly, 17 and their teaching will eat away at people like gangrene. Hymenaeus and Philetus are among these; 18 they have missed the mark, as far as the truth is concerned, by saying that our resurrection has already taken place; and they are overturning some people’s faith. 19 Nevertheless, God’s firm foundation stands, stamped with these words:
“The Lord knows his own,”
and,
“Let everyone who claims he belongs to the Lord
stand apart from wrongdoing.”
2 Timothy 2:15, KJV 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
I am no longer commenting on this. I am no longer going to approve any comments of debating on this. This video was to minister truth to people with this problem…not a subject for debate. Clearly, the verse says above that this does not profit for anything. God bless you Alex ,and u will definitely be in my prayer. Love in Christ Jesus my Lord and Savior to you!
Amen!
-Alex Haiken
http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com
And I welcome you, Alex, to come here and read my posts and comment any time…even if your comment is not in agreement with something I post. Usually, I post prophecy news and things on Bible prophecy. Rarely do I post any subjects that are ‘hot’ topics; however, I am very zealous for the Lord, so my posts will always be straight-forward and honest.
I do encourage you to read and comment; however, when any comments go beyond “I believe” “You believe” and turn into a, “It’s getting nowhere” debate…at that point, I usually encourage peace on the issue and stepping away from it prayerfully.
You are important to me, Alex. Understand this. This is why I have tried explaining. Nothing is worth the chance of spending eternity in hell, at least not to me. I do not advocate that God sends people to hell…quite the contrary. This is why He came in the flesh and suffered horribly, so He could give us a chance to go to heaven. It is Satan through his lies and deceit who leads souls to hell. I wholeheartedly believe that Jesus is coming soon…and once all is said and done, there are no more chances. You are precious and dear in the Lord’s sight. He loves each one of us in a special, personal way…and He loves you much. There are no accidents, Alex. I urge you, no matter how firm you are in your beliefs….pray about the fact that God somehow led you to this article. I think He is trying to give us all opportunities in this day before it’s too late.
I only ask you one favor…and that is all. Go to Him on your hands and knees and ask Him to not allow the enemy to blind you or to interfere, but to show you in a way that He will confirm Himself to you..to reveal the truth to you in a way that can’t be denied. What do you have to lose? If you are so sure of your beliefs, there is nothing to fear in so doing..even if you have done this before….do it again. God is always willing to reveal the truth to us when we genuinely ask and seek truth. Whenever I pray this, He does it for me.
None of us are perfect..we all fall short. But the thing is..are we living in a sin/sins, or are we repenting for them? When we repent, God is always ready to forgive us. Take the Bible at face value on all subjects..when in doubt of man’s interpretation, seek out the original Hebrew/Greek translations that interpret to English..without the King James, etc etc. Prayerfully ask for God to open your heart and mind to His truth every time before you read.
This is all I would advise and ask. No more debate. No more argument. However, you are so special and dear to the Lord… my god, He loves you more than I can even begin to describe. He’s been with you since you were created in your mother’s womb…watching you, loving you, speaking to you…through all of your trials and tribulations…the Lord has been there..hurting with you through the hurts, and rejoicing through the joy…. He wants you, and all of His children, with Him in heaven..to spend eternity with Him. Everyone who goes to hell, He aches for. We can’t even begin to comprehend the greatness and the depth of His love.
Without debate, all I can do is urge you with everything I have inside, no matter how many times you feel you’ve gone to Him, to do it once more..on your knees…just the way I instructed. God’s Word says He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow….He does not change, no matter what we do. Keep this in mind.
God bless you.
This site is more of a news and ministry site. It really isn’t up here for debate..it is to minister to people. Normally, I don’t post any debates on my blog because it takes away from what people will receive. It is disrespectful to God to sit around and argue..but I was kind enough to post yours anyway before I ended the conversation.
In other words, maybe a better way to put it, is opposition is welcome so that truth can be ministered to someone..but if that person is not receiving the truth… I’m not here to debate..but to minister… if one is not to receive the truth, then that’s the end of it. I’m not here as a debate forum..but to minister. I don’t believe in debating..the Bible tells us not to do this… I hope that better explains what my intentions are here. If someone does not receive, then I pray for them…but the conversation doesn’t need to go on and one. I reject teachings of Satan that are not from the Bible.
Yes, Lyn, I will continue to pray for you. One footnote in closing: It should be noted that I spent the first 17 years of my Christian walk believing exactly as you do on this issue. But I ultimately discovered much to my chagrin, that I was wrong. In the final analysis, if any of our doctrines cannot be exegetically supported, we must be willing to let them go, no matter how long-held and treasured our pet doctrines may be. Throughout history, Christians of all traditions have repeatedly used the Bible to support doctrinal positions they believed to be as clear as mineral water but that they later had to confess to be mistaken. The doctrine of those who read their antigay presuppositions into the biblical texts is believed to be only the most recent doctrinal position well on the way to being generally acknowledged as a mistake of this kind.
As we look back over our 2,000 years of history, we find that oppression of one sort or another against people who are “different” — whether by means of race, color, gender, class or sexual orientation — has always been endemic. To our great shame, the oppression and injustices are always carried out in the name of someone’s Christianity. One of the lessons we can learn from these experiences is that reading and interpreting Scripture is not quite as simple as some would like to believe. A text does not simply “say what it says” despite the rational good intentions of some readers. For reading Scripture is not only a matter of what is written there, but also what we expect to find there, what we bring to the text, and what we take away from it. Reading Scripture then is by no means a clinical or a neutral affair. And we must not forget that while it may seem evident to us that others did terrible things in the past, it isn’t always so easy to see that we ourselves may be doing terrible things today. Some food for thought as you remain in prayer.
God’s blessings on you!
-Alex Haiken
http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com
Thank you Alex. I do disagree with you because of what the Bible says. But, if I am going to obey the Bible in its entirety, the Bible also tells us to avoid disputes… thus, I’m no longer going to comment about that. The Bible is the judge, not me. The Bible defends itself and does not need me to argue for it. Thanks so much for the prayers, and God bless you as you discover Him in His fullest in your life.
Looking for loopholes??!! Those of us with respect for Bible interpretation and biblical authority do not look for loopholes. What we seek is harder and infinitely more important to find than easy outs. We search for the intention of the original writers. Who was the writer and to whom was he writing? What was the cultural and historical setting of the writer? What was the meaning of the words in the writer’s day? What was the intended meaning of the author and why was he saying it? What should this mean to me in my situation today? To an extent, careful study can open those meanings to us if we are humble enough not to presume we already know. We try hard to get past what we think we already know to find out what we are looking at.
The Bible is indeed for all to understand, Lyn. But it is also true that the Bible contains both surface and depth. The plan of salvation, the acceptance of God’s grace, cooperation with God in a new life, these all lie on the surface of Scripture. But while the surface may often be easy to get at, the depth is not always so easy. The there are many other things in the Bible that without some knowledge of the Biblical world you are simply not going to get. Only a fool would try to convince themselves and others otherwise. If you read the Bible long enough and attentively enough, questions are going to arise that notes on the bottom of the page don’t and shouldn’t satisfy.
-Alex Haiken
http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com
God bless you Alex. I hope you’re having a nice weekend. I will certainly keep praying for you… pray for me too..we all need prayer, especially this day that we are in. Have a great Sunday!
Alex, I am not looking for loopholes because in God’s word, there are NO loopholes. Let’s reason. It doesn’t matter to me what seminary you went to or what grades you got. Paul tells us that if he or anyone, even an angel from heaven distort the Gospel of Christ, let him be accursed. I am sure that is for this day also. Paul speaks of ending times in 2 Thess. 2:9 and says that there will be those who refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion so that they may believe what is false because they did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. The bible is very clear on homosexuality. “For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.” (Romans 1:26-27).How do you justify the term “vile passion” describing homosexual sex and not see it as sin? Jude testifies about God’s fiery destruction of Sodom saying, “Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued UNNATURAL DESIRE serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire”. What more do you need to see. That is the new testament!
No, the bible doesn’t use the word homosexual. Instead, through Spirit inspired writing, he describes it! Just in case you didn’t understand what he was speaking of. I Cor. 6:9 Paul states: “Don’t be deceived, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor thieves, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. and such were some of you . But you were washed ….” ( The two Greek terms translated by the word homosexuality refer to the passive and acitve consensual homosexual acts) Homosexuality wasn’t an abomination to God in the OT and okay with God in the NT.
I am surprised that you asked about scripture verses and said, ” Who was the writer and to whom was he writing?” Coming from a seminary, you should know who the true writer of any Scripture is.: “For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, of joints and marrow and discerning the the thoughts and intentions of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12) The writer of every verse of the bible is the Holy Spirit through those he had chosen. It was truth for that day and for today. I am not talki9ng about customs of that day. Now I am aware that God had certain rules for his chosen people. He did that to keep them pure for out of them would come the Messiah. But when we get into the NT, we see that there is still condemnation against those men who lay with other men like they would women. The bible could not be clearer. It was God who made woman to be with man. That was his plan. I still don’t see your justification for now thinking that is not true now. You are deceived. You are guilty of eisegesis. My friend, if you do not change, you will face the consequence. That is why we speak in love of what God’s word says. There are not many ways to interpret the bible. There is only one truth! There is a way that seem right to a man but leads to destruction. Alex. you are on that path.
You can argue with me but the truth is so clear. You will answer to God. I pray that you will understand and be saved.
Lyn, the video is indeed straight forward. It is also distorted. Your insinuation that I would lie about what God’s Word says in nothing more than your own unfounded presupposition. As it is, I am a graduate of one of the most academically rigorous evangelical seminaries in the country. I happen to love the Bible. If I were accused of twisting the Scriptures to justify sin, it would cut me very deeply. My love for God’s Word will not let me twist it or otherwise do it any harm.
But one of the first things we learn in seminary is that without applying responsible exegesis in our handling of Scripture, our understanding will be nothing more than misunderstanding. The word “exegesis,” as you may know, comes from the Greek verb which means “to draw out”. Simply put, exegesis is about drawing out from the text the true meaning of a Bible passage. Or phrased a bit differently, it means getting out of the text what it originally meant to the author and to the original intended audience, without reading into the text the many traditional interpretations that may have grown up around it.
Exegesis then is an investigation. The question we always have to be asking is: What’s going on here? The reader today must somehow try to enter the world of the biblical writer and seek to understand what the writer was saying. If we fail to pay attention to the world in which the Bible was written, we will simply read biblical texts, infuse them with meaning from our social and symbolic world and conclude that the Bible speaks directly to us.
In contrast to this, what many do instead is what some theologians refer to as “frontloading”, that is to say, they read their own personal, political or ideological beliefs back into the Bible, instead of reading out from the Bible what the original writers were saying. This process of reading one’s own ideas into interpretation of the Bible is called “eisegesis”. EXEgesis and EISEgesis are conflicting approaches to interpreting the Bible. Why? Exegesis is reading out from the Bible what the original writers were saying. Eisegesis is reading one’s own ideas or prejudices back into the Bible. Exegesis is about getting out of the text what is truly there in the first place. Eisegesis is about putting into the text something never intended by the author. Exegesis is drawing out the true meaning of a Bible passage. Eisegesis is at best unwise, and at worst extremely dangerous.
Those who maintain a humble and teachable spirit, and are able to ask questions (rather than the temptation to raise objections) will be those who learn the most of what the Bible contains for believers. That’s why I suggested you read some of the specific posts I suggested. Do you have a humble and teachable spirit? Or do you think you have nothing left to learn on the topic?
-Alex Haiken
http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com
Alex..I know what the Bible says and I did not expect most homosexuals to agree with this video. Many people who are caught up in any sin always try and find loopholes in the Bible. A degree does not matter. The Bible is for all to understand. Osama Bin Laden was extremely smart, that did not make him right. Carl Sagan had degrees..very brilliant man…but that did not make him right. Sigmund Freud had degrees even more than you, but that did not make him right. Degrees do not matter…what matters is being open to listening to the voice of the Holy Spirit. I am always open to ‘sound’ doctrine, but I will always reject false doctrine any time because I am that close to God. I will always humble myself before God when I sin and I am honest with Him..I won’t ever pervert His holy Word. I don’t believe you are purposely lying…but someone is purposely lying to you and you are believing those lies being told you..and that would be the enemy.
I don’t really spend much time getting into religious disputes..the Bible warns against that. I post the truth. Those who want to reject it can take it to God, and those who want to pray over it and believe it can also go to God and repent. This is up to you or anyone else. However, when I tell the truth, my slate is clean before God. Man corrupts God’s Word, as people like yourself are doing. God forbid. And you do not even know you are doing this. You wholeheartedly believe you are right. I will always speak truth.
The good news is that it is never too late, Alex, to be forgiven and for God to heal you of this demonic spirit of homosexuality. When you repent, God will forgive you and He will deliver you.
I happened to come across your blog. Nearly every person who acknowledges an aversion to homosexuality does so on the basis of what he or she believes the Bible has to say. In their mind, there is no doubt whatsoever about what the Bible says and what the Bible means. Their general argument goes something like this: Homosexuality is an abomination and the homosexual is a sinner. Homosexuality is condemned in both the Old and New Testaments. Therefore, if we are to be faithful to the clear teachings of Scripture we too must condemn homosexuality. Needless to say, this premise is being widely debated among evangelicals today and seriously challenged by biblical scholars, theologians and religious leaders everywhere.
It rarely occurs to any of us that our reading of Scripture is profoundly colored by our own cultural context and worldview. In light of the post above and since I happen to speak and write on this topic, I thought you might find some of these posts of particular interest and relevance. I would particularly recommend the following:
“Genesis 19: What Were the Real Sins of Sodom?”
“Leviticus 18: What Was the Abomination?”
“Romans 1: What Was Paul Ranting About?”
“Romans 2: Paul’s Bait and Switch”
“Genesis 1: Turning the Creation Story into an Anti-Gay Treatise”
“Why No One in the Biblical World Had a Word for Homosexuality”
“Exegesis: Not For the Faint in Heart”
(Links to these and more posts may be found by simply clicking the link below and then selecting the “Archives” page.)
-Alex Haiken
http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com
Hi Alex. Thanks for commenting. These are the days of the perversions of God’s word. I clearly read the Bible and see that ALL sexual sin is condemned by God. I think this video is pretty straight forward. Most of the churches of today have perverted God’s word, appeasing the itching ears of the lukewarm and unprepentant. I realize you will not receive my words here, so I will not debate you because it is pointless. Only the Holy Spirit can remove the web of lies and deceit the enemy, Satan, has so craftily spun around the hearts of the unrepentant sinners.
I sin and make mistakes all of the time. The difference between you and I is that for one, I repent when I sin, and 2, I will never lie about what God’s Word says..people who do things like that have been warned not to do that. If you have questions about man’s interpretations, try reading the original Hebrew/Greek. It says basically, the same things. 3,if I lay down with someone sexually and I don’t do it God’s way…I am sinning and woe unto me when I kneel before Him without repenting.
You see, I don’t really care what perversions people are preaching these days….I follow ministers who are truly anointed and, I go by what the Bible says. That is one place you are mistaken…by going by what these misled ministers are saying. Always go by God’s Word first.
I stand on God’s Word. God bless you. I will pray for you that you see the light before it is too late.
Alex…re read a few comments back of mine. I said we had all argued on this enough and that I was ending this conversation. We said our last few things and that was it. I wasn’t going to post anymore arguing types of comments. If you sort through here, you will see where I said this to you. I told you this up front. I said in my comment, also, that I welcome comments, even in opposition, but when it goes on for too long, at that point, it needs to end. This conversation had went above and beyond that. Do you remember this? I’m not quoting word for word..but whatever I said was very close to what I am saying here. I don’t have time to read through all of the comments right now. I did post all of your opposing comments, if you noticed…but I am not posting anymore on this topic with us sitting here arguing about it..like I told you. You may oppose other posts and I’ll post your comment, but if it starts going on after so many comments back and forth..then it’s too much and it would need to end. That is what I told you. God bless you. I hope you are having a beautiful day today. It is very very cold where I am at..I don’t like cold! LOL
Talk to you soon.
The mercy of God extends to all who seek his forgiveness and strength to overcome. Homosexuality has been glamorized by Hollywood. Pray for those who practice homosexuality. All sin leads away from God. No sin is better or worse than another. It is just that this sin has been justified and made good by the lost of this world.
Amen Marianne. Anytime anyone confronts any specific sin, it is always a very sensitive thing..particularly abortion and homosexuality. All sin is wicked and leads us from God, and all sin can be forgiven when we lay it before the cross and repent of it.
Curious…see Jim’s comment below Marianne. If people are somehow gathering what he said here from this video, then I need to take it down… I did not get out of this video what he got…but could you tell me if you did/do? I don’t want to misrepresent my own beliefs to anyone. Thanks Marianne! I am seeking constructive criticism on the video. I didn’t make it..I won’t be offended. I thought it was very well made, but maybe I am getting something different out of it than the average person. Maybe there is something not good about it that I’m not seeing. Let me know.
I wanted to repost this until I saw that it says, “A homo sexual can not be Saved” according to 1st Corinthians 6:9-10. The fact is that the Bible no where says a homo-sexual can not repent and be Saved. I completely agree that homo-sexuality is a vile sin. However 2nd Peter 3:9 is still in the book. God desires all men to come to repentance. There have been wonderful testimonies of homo-sexual’s repenting and now live a wonderful Christian heterosexual life. Jim
What? I think you’re misunderstanding it. It says a homosexual can repent and be saved in it… it says that if a homosexual is still practicing homosexuality without repentance, they can’t be saved..meaning, they won’t go to heaven (just like any sin people are living in…) I think you’ve confused the wordage used in it. You might want to watch it again in its entirety. Everyone can repent of something and be saved.
@His Servant: An UNREPENTANT homosexual, His Servant..UNREPENTANT. No different than an unrepentant prostitute, drug dealer, fornicator, adulterer, etc. It does not imply that once a person is homosexual, they can never repent for their sin and be saved. Salvation is the repentance of sin and allowing Christ to live in you. God bless you.